Defend Unity

ONE PRAYER-WEB 

 If you could be any other African nationality apart from your own, which would you be and why?

The history of the people’s of this great nation of course goes much further back! 4000 years ago, the original inhabitants of this land were hunter-gatherers, related to the Khoikhoi of South Africa. Then 3000 years ago, they were displaced and absorbed by the Southern Cushites, who came from the horn of Africa.  These new people were farmers and they introduced irrigation and composting to Eastern Africa. But 1000 years ago, they too were displaced and pushed southwards into Tanzania by several large groups that immigrated from the north.

Today, Kenya boasts at least 42 different ethnicities – although these could go up to as high as 70, depending on how you count them! This diversity is very common in Africa. Each ethnicity has different ancestry, history, language, place of origin, food and traditions.

Our diversity is a great part of the real beauty and attraction of this nation. But  because of real and perceived injustices, ethnic tensions and even animosities have become a part of our national fabric. Unfortunately, politicians have fanned these tensions in order to secure voting blocks, with the most infamous example being the PEV, 5 years ago. Today we even have a group from the Coast region threatening to secede from our nation. In the face of such realities, it’s easy to be paralyzed and feel helpless. But I believe God’s word has solutions for us as a nation. Let’s explore the 3rd line of our national prayer –

‘May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’.

Please read Acts 6:1-7

It’s no fun to feel that you’ve been treated unfairly because of something you have no control over.

The first thing to note is that the apostles took the issue seriously. On hearing the complaint, they immediately called a meeting of the entire church. It’s one of the very rare occasions that happened in the book of Acts. They didn’t say ‘this is a minor thing and it will go away by itself.’ Or ‘by the next generation when our children have intermarried, this thing will have passed’. Instead they listened carefully, and sought to UNDERSTAND the issues being raised from the perspective of the Grecian Jews. To quote an old American proverb, they ‘walked a mile in their neighbors shoes’.Much of our stereotyping of others comes because we fail to understand things from the other’s perspective!

Clearly ethnic discrimination aka tribalism, is not a problem specific only to this great country! Ethnic tensions are found worldwide; whether between African Americans and Caucasian Americans, the Irish and the English, the Serbs and the Bosnians, white and black South Africans, Northern and Southern Sudanese, Ethiopians and Eritreans, Tutsi and Hutus. It’s natural and human to identify closer with people who are most like you. But the problem is that it’s so it’s easy to move from that to feeling superior or inferior to those who belong to other groups, and from there to treating people differently because of their background.

‘May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’

According to his book ‘Negative Ethnicity’, Koigi wa Wamwere says that seeds of negative ethnicity are planted with such innocence that they’re a source of fun; ‘harmless jokes’ leveled on different communities. We all have those stereotypes about other tribes that seem harmless and funny. For example, it’s said that Kikuyus are thieves, and the only way to tell if a Kikuyu is really dead is to drop a coin near them and see if they will respond! Coastarians are said to be lazy, Luyhas are said to make good housemaids, Maasais is used as another word for watchmen, Luos are said to like throwing stones, Asians are supposed to be stingy etc. Comedians even make jokes about these! But as Koigi’s book shows, such stereotypes easily lead to ethnic prejudices, which can be fanned into resentment and hostility. Ultimately, these can lead to what happened in the Rwandan genocide, or here during our PEV.

Learning to respect other people’s way of being means choosing to find out why they do what they do, and you can only do this by listening to them. It is lack of understanding that generates fear, suspicion and the consequent negative assessment of a people and their cultural values. We need to make a commitment therefore, to listen and understand. 

‘May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’

The second important thing the apostles did was to GIVE PREFERENCE to those who felt unfairly treated. A careful reading of the passage reveals a startling fact: all the 7 names of the men appointed were of Grecian origin! The apostles seemed to be saying, ‘clearly you feel aggrieved by this issue; why don’t we appoint members of your group to join the leadership team? And why don’t they take leadership over all the distribution?’ What a radical thing to do! They resisted the temptation to have separate programs for the Hebrews & for the Greeks and instead decided to affirm the group that felt alienated. Can you imagine what that did for the trust in the community? No wonder we’re told that afterwards that the church grew greatly in numbers and that even Jewish priests came to the faith! These people were clearly stronger together!

Phil 2:3-4 says, ‘Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others’. Negative ethnicity is an attitude of superiority towards others. But it is very difficult to disrespect those you have chosen to look up to or admire!

What if we could learn to admire and aspire to learn from the positive qualities of others? What if we can learn from the Luo culture how to have a sense of justice and a value for education? What if we can learn from the Luhya culture how to be loyal and have a strong work ethic? What if we can learn from Asian culture how to be hardworking and industrious? What if we can learn from the Coast culture how to enjoy life and not take ourselves too seriously? What if we can learn from the Kamba culture how to be spiritually sensitive? What if we can learn from the Kikuyu how to be entrepreneurial? What if we can learn from the Maasai how to be courageous and value our culture… I’ve not mentioned every group here because we’re so many – but every group has something this nation can be blessed by!

Let me ask you a few questions at this point…

§  What ethnicity are your 3 closest friends from?

§  How many of your investment club members are from a different ethnicity?

§  Of the people you have employed or given work to in the last 12 months, how many of them are from ethnicities different to yours?

§  When did you last eat in the home of a friend from a different ethnicity, religion or race?

§  Who is the obviously suitable presidential candidate to you? Are they from the same ethnicity?

‘May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’

 The third key to enjoying our nation’s blessings is UNITY. When you have unity, you can have peace in a nation. When you have unity, you can walk around in freedom/liberty without fear of your neighbor. Our passage teaches us that unity is a choice. We must choose to…

UNDERSTAND – what if you could deliberately build real friendships of trust with people from other ethnicities so that by the end of the year, the group surrounding you looks different? This doesn’t mean you leave your old friends but that you choose to build and be informed by new friendships of trust and understanding. What if this week you could affirm those friends around you from a different ethnicity and seek to enter their world more? 2nd we must choose to…

* GIVE PREFERENCE – how can you challenge the stereotypes of those around you? What if you could choose not to talk in mother tongue when others present? What if when faced with two qualified people for a position, you deliberately pick the one not from your group (and if you have no candidates from outside your group, it means you’re not looking hard enough)?

United we stand, divided we fall. The beauty of our nation is in its diversity. I want to live in a Kenya where I don’t have to be afraid that my friend is a Luo or a Mkamba. That happened in 2007 when I visited one of my best friends and all of a sudden wondered what he was thinking of me! I want a Kenya where my children can marry another Kenyan without fearing the terrible marriage separation that took place in parts of this country as couples in inter-ethnic marriages were declared traitors and separated or killed.

 May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’

In closing, let me say that while this message holds true for all Kenyans, it is particularly urgent for us as Christians. Jesus said that the one thing that would distinguish his followers would not be their great outreach programs, the church services or their miracles. In John 13:34-5 he said, ‘As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.’ As people walk into Mavuno, may they be astounded to find people of every ethnicity and background here in the congregation and every position of leadership. May even our critics say, ‘you know what, we may not agree with those people, but we are amazed by how everyone is loved and accepted there’. 

‘May we dwell in unity, peace and liberty’

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25 Responses to “Defend Unity”

  1. Totally Disagree Says:

    I totally disagree with Pastor M. sermon today. As a Christian leader, he was openly campaigning for one political leader who we all know. There are 42 tribes in Kenya and its not about the just 2 tribes who have made presidents in Kenya. Wasn’t JM a political assassin? Honestly Pastor M. today you failed, I think you would have spent better time at the pulpit telling the flock on how to vote, that is, the different ballot papers, than campaigning for the presidential candidates. Preach peace at this time.

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    • There are some sermons that regardless of how they are preached, some people will always see them through colored lenses. I think Money is one of them, that whenever they are brought up, people will always say the church is ALWAYS talking about money. I find it is the people for whom money has the biggest hold on them who resist. This one of ethnicity is another.

      For “Totally Disagree” I think the point of the message was to UNDERSTAND other ethnicities, and where you can, GIVE PREFERENCE to them. Are those two point Godly? Are they clearly illustrated from the passage of the Hebraic and Grecian Jews? Then as the good book says, go and do likewise. But I beg of you, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just because you disagreed with some of it (which by the way I don’t, I thought it was spot on) does not mean you refuse to hear God’s word. Do you have any issues of negative ethnicity you need to confess before God? Join the rest of us in doing so if you need to.

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    • Pastor M,
      I am so grateful for your message this past Sunday I have been praying as I usually do after every sermon at church for God to help me be a doer of His Word. It is clear that God wants me to love all people of all tribes because if I cant love my brother whom I see how can I claim to love God who I haven’t seen. Thank you my dear Pastor for your boldness in speaking this word. You must continue to speak what God tells you to speak. I cant wait for this Sunday.

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  2. Lucy Kivuti Bitok Says:

    Hi Pst M, That was a real great message. Injustice is Unfair. I enjoyed the Saturday Night Service. I agreed with most of what you said except for the perceived injustice against the Luos. I do not dispute the facts. However given that this is one community with probably the most learned individuals in this country, why is it that they have not invested back home. Why have the Elite of the community Not taken it as their responsibility to enlighten their fellow community members or at least empower them? ‘Foreigners’ will not develop the area. No excuses, let them do something about it.

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  3. Pst M,
    This was a very sobering sermon, because I personally realised I am surrounded by people of my own ethnicity, and however much I sometimes try to be fair, I find myself laughing at those stereo type jokes and even propagating falacies as truth, which I realized is negative ethnicity. I also appreciate that it will not be easy to change, especially when I am around people who are louder than me, but I want to commit to work on it, because I don’t want to be found faulting God, and I will be repenting when I find myself slipping back to old habits. But thank you so much for pointing out what has been so wrong in our thinking, may God continually guide you to sober us up some more.

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  4. Greetings pastor M and the entire Mavuno community.
    I was in church yesterday, and was blessed by the sermon until the pastor said that when hiring and there are two equally qualified candidates one from his tribe and the other from another tribe, he would choose the latter. Don’t you think that is discrimination against your tribe?

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  5. Pst. M,
    The sermon left me with more questions than answers.
    First, what is the message for our children? Intermarry and don’t be tribal? I battle with teaching my kids my mother tongue. I want them to understand their culture, their clan, their trade and take pride in it. I even want them to pick a couple of sayings from our community. My spouse is from a different tribe and he offers the same to our children. so yes, our chamas are from our communities. That is on purpose so that we can have other parents and kids who can influence our kids and reinforce our culture.
    In society today, we who do not want to be associated with any tribe or ethnicity are the ultimate losers. Know who you are, where you are from and what genetically are your strengths, weaknesses. Then you can offer something greater to Kenya.
    Secondly, poor in North Eastern, Central, Western and every where else in Kenya is just that. They are all unfairly treated and and deserve preference. It was disturbing that you chose to single out one ethnicity and to great detail.

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  6. I am glad pastor M zoned in on that particular tribe Luo as opposed to the other equally if not more disenfranchised tribes. There is a particular dynamic which lies at the heart of Luo disenfranchisement. We have got to understand that other tribes were neglected because they were a non-entity. We overlooked the Turkana and the Maasai and similar tribes. We forgot they existed. The Luo were not forgotten they were actively overlooked. We remembered them and also remembered to disenfranchise them. They are also deeply aware of this.

    “I have never discriminated against anyone on the basis of tribe”, “I have never been discriminated for because of my tribe”. These two thoughts are at the heart of my (and I suspect a good many others) resistance to this particular message. We are assuming strict notions of guilt. So long as we continue to work from this perspective we will never have the dialogue on negative ethnicity.

    We have been taught to look at discrimination as something which puts others at a disadvantage and not as something that puts us at an advantage. Consequently we view ourselves as morally neutral, normative and average. My moral high ground is based purely on my decisions to date. I have never discriminated against anyone therefore I feel affronted when I am asked to feel guilty that someone else has been discriminated against. I am offended that I am expected to feel guilty that members of my tribe who I have never related with were the perpetrators of this discrimination. My first reaction is to say “Get over it and move on! Stop harping on”

    This moral neutrality allows us to operate on the basis of assumptions passed down to us which we unquestioningly absorbed. We know something is wrong there and we do not want to face it. We have been trained not to look at it. We have been trained to dissociate ourselves from that reality. The reason I seem oppressive and opposed to them for most luos I come across is because they too have absorbed a powerful story about who my people are, we are they who have been trained to ignore their humanity.
    We must begin to look at discrimination from the oft unseen angle of privilege. As a member of a particular tribe there are certain advantages I took for granted that I believe is where Pastor M was going with his statistic on mortality rates. While I have never discriminated against anyone on the basis of tribe and have never been discriminated for I will concede that I have several advantages over certain other tribes merely by being from my tribe. For instance when I read the history of my country I am told that my people as a collective built this country while the other tribes sent a representative or two. I am entitled in this country. The reason some tribes cling so dearly to their heroes is because they have been allocated a few people and I have been taught that among my people heroes abound.
    Someone raised the issue of educated Luos not helping out their own. It is interesting that we blame the tribe for their disadvantage. We are ready to acknowledge that the Rendille or Maasai or… are disenfranchised but if this particular tribe does not have resources, it is their fault. On a parting note before we begin to disparage the professors who have not given a hand up to their people let us take pause and begin to appreciate the psychology of a dispossessed people. Until we appreciate that we have been trained to think we are the ideal and those not of us are the other we can never have the conversation on ethnicity in this country.
    At the very least let us extend grace. We must give people adjudicative space. The is healing to be found when we allow a people to stand and say, “We have been wronged” and rather than arguing with them we listen. We might not agree with them or even refuse to acknowledge the perpetrators but the reason I suspect that so much bitterness exists is that when some try to declare their hurt we quickly begin to point out how they have contributed to or compounded their own hurt.

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  7. Tribalist? Nope! Says:

    I am not a tribalist but this particular sermon sikuifeel sana. First I have an issue with pasi saying he understands why Luos throw stones in the streets!.. just because theyve never had a president from their community doesnt give them a right to go to the streets. Out of the 42 tribes you talked abt.. we only have 2 tribes that have had a president.. meaning if this was a reason.. then everyone apart from the kyuks and kales, should be on the streets.

    JM and Dedan Kimathi whose remains we dont even know where they were burieds, were also political assassins, yet we don’t see kyuks going to the streets..

    Just like Disturbed says.. there are soo many poor people in the country.. and poor is poor.. whether youve had a president from your community or not… for us as christians the best we can do, is to come up with solutions for them and not talk abt the problem.

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  8. Definitely not an easy topic based on the comments – we still have a looong way to go especially in church because we hide our tribalism in our faith.
    So why don’t Luos do something about development in Nyanza? For one, that sounds like someone who has not been to the Lakeside since serikali ya muungano to see just how much has changed in the last 5 years, and sadly precisely because it had to take one of their own to unblock infrastructure development. Secondly, it seems this was the point of Pastor M’ s message, tembea in other people’s shoes first. It is like asking without appreciating history: why don’t’ people from Central settle in their backyards , with all the empty tracts of land? Until one walks in the shoes of a family that was displaced by wakoloni only to see politicos nyakua their land – it is hard to comment.

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  9. Thanks for all the honesty in your sharing people! I’m glad we as a church feel the freedom to give pushback. I do need to say that it would not have been authentic of Pastor M to preach such a message from a point of neutrality – he acknowledged that he came from a particular background (that he did not choose) and hence his applications based on understanding and giving preference to the ethnic group that has historically been at loggerheads with his – yours will be different based on your background.

    I urge us all to listen to the scripture, which pushes us as Kenyans to UNDERSTAND and GIVE PREFERENCE. Instead of defending ourselves when no one attacked us. That’s the only way we’ll be able to move forward together in unity!

    @’Tribalist? Nope!’ Nobody said you were. Try read the words of @Gacheri though, as she says some very powerful things. If we could lay our defensiveness aside like the apostles did (can’t have been easy), I suspect we will find the Holy Spirit will lead us to react differently than the people of the world.

    I’m proud to be a Mavunite… to belong to a community that is unafraid to tackle hard national issues authentically and fearlessly!

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  10. Clearly, this issue alone needs a whole series of it’s own at Mavuno! Thanks Pastor M for fearlessly broaching it. I’m with you on that one @Dactao. We need to seriously learn to listen to other voices and not just the ones we’ve grown up listening to. We can’t keep doing the same thing over and over again as a nation and hope for a different result!
    Guys, it’s time to start confronting that negative ethnic script that runs in our heads and causes us to give allegiance first to our tribe before our God and our Christian community. Like Pastor M said, he too didn’t think he was a tribalist until he had the opportunity to walk a mile in his neighbour’s shoes!

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  11. Joel Mwangale Says:

    @kwiss, Pastor M was merely trying to apply what the disciples did in the bible story. They gave preference to the other! They recognized that because they were in power, they had to give affirmative action to other groups in order to promote diversity in the church. I love that Mavuno has such diversity and I know many churches that don’t! For that matter, many local companies hire in such a way that people can have mother-tongue conversations in the board-room. Government ministries are the same! Affirmative action by leaders is the one way to not only promote national healing but create diverse leadership teams that are stronger together!

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  12. Seriously annoyed Says:

    For the first time I just did not feel you Pst M, at all. In fact, I was pissed with you. I did not even clear watching the rest of the sermon. You may have gotten a revelation of how the Luo’s have a cry for justice and you were clearly campaigning for them but what about the injustice the Kikuyu’s face?

    I have been discriminated against. I work in the government and in terms of scholarship allocation or job replacement to programs, this is occupied by people from the community the presiding minister comes from. So for this reason, I always ensure I have centrally placed myself so that I can be served en mass. Why? Because woe unto you if you are singled out and you come from a different community from the reigning one, your file mysteriously disappears and that becomes a case closed. Need I add my Aunt is the PS of my ministry, but she can’t help me when such instances arise, lest she’s termed tribal. So who cries out for justice for these Kikuyu’s when such injustices happen?

    Another instance; whenever a Kikuyu does something big or occupies a big government office, most times by merit, that is almost automatically overshowed and that appointment will be termed as TRIBAL and it makes headlines. However, when someone else does it, it’s not a big deal. It’s not even newsworthy. The IEBC is more or less ran by the people of Somali origin, from the top boss to the small clerks who were out there in the streets registering us. But who’s talking?

    And then I hear you preach how radical we should be, that if you had 2 people with the same credentials, you would pick the one from a different community than your own? When both my siblings are jobless? Is that not “reversed” discrimination? Aha! no! I am not feeling this message at all.

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    • “And then I hear you preach how radical we should be, that if you had 2 people with the same credentials, you would pick the one from a different community than your own?”

      No, that is affirmative action, it is called righting a wrong, which is why we have women rep. in the katiba.

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  13. Chris mwendwa Says:

    I
    have the blessing or curse of having one of
    those faces that pass like i could come from
    almost any part of this beautiful country and
    so over the course of the past few months
    I’ve been subjected to the most
    IGNORANT,HATE FILLED MYOPIC HALF TRUTHS
    & WHOLE LIES imaginable! from people of
    various communities including my own &
    across the political/tribal divide, who
    assumed i was one of “us” who then
    proceeded to express some of the MOST
    STUPID Comments i have the good sense NOT
    to repeat anywhere! Whats worse is that
    these sentiments were expressed to me by
    corporates,stock brokers, lawyers, medics
    and even a group of religious leaders all of
    whom i otherwise had successful dealings
    tribe and politics notwithstanding. Proving to
    me that tribalism in Kenya for the most part,
    trumps everything: education,
    professionalism, common sense, & worse still
    religious practice.
    There is something about our politics and i
    don’t know what it that brings out the very
    worst in us as a people…. i don’t have the
    answers but i hope we as a nation can start
    asking the right questions
    small wonder Jesus said Mark 7:13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like this.”

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  14. So I really liked your sermon, it was so liberating.. I am a Luo who has grown up “hearing that these Kikuyus have really mistreated us. ” I have experienced some minor forms of tribalism like being in my friends home and them suddenly speaking in their mother-tongue and leaving me thinking awkward and asking myself if I should leave…
    I recently started working and I am very afraid of experiencing more serious forms of tribalism especially after what my parents have told me they have gone through..e.g being denied promotions on basis of their tribe etc
    After you spoke I felt liberated because as a Christian I feel called to love despite what has happened and is happening and that love sometimes feels like glossing over the truth and acting like it doesn’t happen yet it does.
    Now I feel free to think that this is a reality it is out there and my heart feels like I can make the choice to love because Jesus said we should not because I am hiding the truth
    I can also decide in advance that if I experience any more forms of tribalism I will still love and do what is right.

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  15. Hi Pastor M

    please read this after feeling so heart broken about this whole issue of tribalism.

    http://jonathansiaga.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/tribalism-in-the-bible/

    It surely is no fun being treated different because of where I come from or the language I speak. It was never an issue to me until my sister was getting married in feb 2007, I was 30 then, and I was happy because for the first time literally I saw that we are different people and I celebrated the differences between our culture and my brother in law’s culture.

    then comes the violence and my parents complain bitterly about the results of the elections and said very harsh things about the tribe that took presidency. I thought surely why can’t we just look past peoples tribes. we have great diversity in our land, and thanks for pointing that out. Am dating a girl from the other tribe and we are so worried about what our parents will say should we decide to tie the knot.

    Pray for us and trully may we dwell in unity, peace and liberty.

    Jonathan

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  16. Good morning Pastor M.. i am ashamed to write this because i have allowed fear to rule my life. Yesterday as i was going home from work, i passed by Tuskys to buy milk for my little ones, to my surprise i found Kenyans crazily shopping! you would be mistaken to think it is the eve of opening day or Christmas eve. The queues were unwinding, trolleys and trolleys of supplies! i left the place feeling like i missed the memo,

    i pass by total petrol station and SHOCK guys are filling their tanks! the queues were equally unwinding! what is happening? I couldn’t sleep wondering whats going to happen on 5th of March? where will we run to? where will i hide my babies? it didn’t help that earlier on in the day a very very very good pal chats me up with the opening Hi CORD- really? i have never engaged in any political discussion with her before! never ever, i couldn’t respond i wondered was it because of my name? I am Atieno by the way, though no one has ever referred to me by that name, how i wished i dropped it when i could now am stuck with it and it could be the death of me!

    Matters got worse for me when i tune to Aljazeera and they have a special feature on Rwanda WOW! and you know the grim photos of dead bodies strewn all over! I simply couldn’t sleep Pastor M.

    what happens? do you gather your family plus extended and run towards one direction or is it everyone for himself?my baby girls?we don’t even own passports! I am pregnant how far can i run?will i manage to carry my babes both under 5 years of age? I hate it, and i hate my name 😦

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    • Disagree Strongly Says:

      My heart goes out to you Anita and I pary right now that you would receive the peace of God that passes all understanding.The Lord your God is with you and He is mighty to save.
      I also saw the queues in the supermarkets and I intentionally refused to stock up on anything because we have prayed and God will keep us because only He can!
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  17. Pastor M, I think you missed the gist of what some people said about this sermon. I agree with you that you have not endorsed any candidate or party but I would like to confront you on the issue of justifying breaking the law by saying you understand a response to injustice. When you say that you appreciate those who throw stones at injustice, you seemingly miss the fact that it is still a WRONG response. I could say I appreciate the Mungiki’s reaction to the injustice of ‘their’ people being killed, or those who were offended by ‘outsiders’ owning their land ad infinitum. When Peter addressed the injustice against Jesus by attacking a soldier (or when James & John mentioned to Jesus that they had swords or would call down thunder) Jesus confronted their wrong response to injustice. This was just a small part of His reconciliation mission. That is the real crux of the matter.

    Secondly, the ‘justification’ of one community’s actions enforces the tribal stereotype as there is now an ‘offender’ tribe that must apologise but in the same fails to see the ‘offender’ community as suffering under the ‘justification’ offense.

    Barikiwa,

    Andy

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    • Hi Andy, I don’t think Pst. M condoned the throwing of stones, he just said he understands where they were coming from. And so do I. If I was in their shoes I probably would do the same.

      Let me give u an example. If u watched Nairobi Half-life, you see a boy who comes to NBI innocent and all, but is homeless, clothesless, all those things. What does he do, he joins a gang that steals middle class (i intentionally use middle class) cars. Now for me middle class, I have no doubt what this boy is doing is wrong, no doubt! But do i understand, heck yes!

      In fact if i was in his shoes i aint sure i would not do the same. Its the reason all middle class must get involved in invoking justice and equity in our society coz even wen we ignore it comes to hound us. Same applies to the stone throwers, the stone throwing is just a symptom, the disease is that they have been ignored for so long and as they throw those stones, really its coz they don have much to lose. Now u and me can get caught up with the whether they should throw stones or not, or actually get involved in sorting the disease.

      My thinking is this, we can either ignore the problem or call it what it is and deal with it. It is the reality on the ground. We must get away from fairness. There is a reason why Christ calls us to be the voice of the poor and lowly, coz its the right thing, not necessarily the fair thing.

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  18. Amazing how different people will understand and react to the same message. I put it to you Andy that you failed to understand the message and maybe you don’t fall in the category who likely will and thats understandable as well. Ask yourself, Do all k-street night operators dream to be where they are or enjoy being there? Did kibera dwellers choose their dwelling from fancy colored and illustrated brochures? From the way you have expressed yourself, i can tell that you do not know what it means to live in Kibera, to be de humanised, to walk to inda from kibish and back every day, to be laid off from your job with no notice, to wonder where your next meal will come from. Jesus our model shows compassion to the less fortunate, hangs out with prostitutes, tax collectors, fishermen, Galileans and short fused violent men. Why did he not choose the pharisees as his disciples to launch his ministry despite their education, sophistication and status? Simple-their lack of empathy and humility and self righteousness was a barrier to faith. If Jesus was to be born in Kenya, would he choose you as his disciple?

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  19. I listened to Pastor M on Sunday as he said he would not apologise for standing for the gospel and I knew I had to visit the blog. I think the issue of tribes is such an emotive one, case in point the comments in this blog. I listen to the election results coming out and the conversations we are having over who wins and I know we have such a long way to go before we actually hear what Pstr M was saying, partly (did I just say partly), well mainly we block. In an ideal world, tribe should not matter. But sadly, in our world it does. But maybe, just maybe if we did stuff differently….

    I come for a tribe (kiuk) and a family that would not be found voting for one of the presidential candidates. We say its coz he is the problem but if you listen to our private conversations, its the whole tribe we have a problem with. So this election, i knew God was telling me to vote for this guy, for me! Yes i weighed the two candidates but in the end it came to tribe.

    Truth is, if you have visited some parts of nyanza, and yes i know every tribe in kenya has poor people, but if u have visited nyanza with ur eyes open, you see just how much they have paid the price of being opposition. Are there other forces at work like working culture maybe. But the basic that every govt should provide has just not been there till recently.Truth is, God calls us to a faith that is more bothered by the less troden (poor, lowly etc) not coz they deserve it, but coz that is our calling. Before we write off what was said, make sure it is for the right reasons. We nairobians do not like to think of tribe as an issue but wen really really honest, we know better.

    Ok, long and short, big ups Pstr M for such a bold conversation

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